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THIRD SECRET OF FATIMA HIDDEN
Pope Bene...CONTINUED<br /><br />THIRD SECRET OF FATIMA HIDDEN<br />Pope Benedict kept the Third Secret of Fatima-apostasy- hidden since he was part of the apostasy with his irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.It is political and not Magisterial.<br />If the Third Secret of Fatima was about apostasy in the Church how could he say it .Since he was actively interpreting the Creeds, Catechisms, EENS, Vatican Council II and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 with the false premise.He had approved the non traditional and schismatic premise, inference and conclusion of Church documents.<br />Recently Bishop Athanasius Schneider told Dr. Taylor Marshall in an interview, that there are no literal cases of the baptism of desire. This would be explosive for Pope Benedict. Since Schneider is saying that we do not need the New Theology. LG 14( baptism of desire) is not an example of an objective exception to EENS.There could be an EENS with no known exceptions. The Council in LG 14 etc does not contradict the understanding of EENS, according to the missionaries of the 16th century.So he was also telling Cardinal Marx that he and Taylor Marshall, do not interpret the Council like Marx and the German Bishops and Pope Benedict.There is no theological basis today for the German Synodal Path, when the New Theology is put aside.<br />With that statement Bishop Schneider is putting on hold the two popes interpretation of the Council and the spread of apostasy.-Lionel Andrades<br /><br />1<br />https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/archbishop-vigano-our-lady-warned-of-great-apostasy-in-church-followed-by-risk-of-world-war-iii/<br />2.<br />https://insidethevatican.com/news/newsflash/letter-8-vigano-on-the-unrevealed-third-secret-of-fatima/<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-2319613743884715022021-09-06T01:05:23.595-07:002021-09-06T01:05:23.595-07:00CONTINUED
Vigano criticizes the great apostasy but...CONTINUED<br />Vigano criticizes the great apostasy but he knows that he must interpret Vatican Council II with the irrational premise, since it would be a break with the liberals and ecclesiastics – but also with his traditionalist friends.<br />With the rational premise, there is no New Theology and when there is no New Theology,there is no New Ecumenism, New Evangelisation, New Ecclesiology etc. There is no new schism and heresy.<br />I ask myself, how can the authenticity of apparitions like Medugorje be evaluated based upon faithfulness to Church doctrine, when the doctrines have been changed with an irrational premise and the popes are no more following the old Magisterium of the Catholic Church ?<br />Eric Sammons has written a book titled Deadly Indifference on how the Church has lost its mission and how we can re-claim it.In the book Sammons could not affirm the absolutist interpretation of outside the Church there is no salvation. The false premise was used by him to create what he called the Salvation Spectrum. He was denying the Faith with his irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II and of course did connect his error with the title of the book.He was going along with the New Theology of the liberals that creates the Salvation Spectrum and religious indifferentism...So they appointed him Editor in Chief of Crisis Magazine.<br />We see the apostasy when John Salza refuses to interpret Vatican Council II with the rational premise and so have to theologically affirm the absolutist interpretation of EENS.This would not help his career as a lawyer.So in an article on the blog 1Peter5 he calls on Catholics to not join sedevacantist communities.Instead he wants them to stay with his apostasy in the Church. Some choice.<br />When Pope Benedict and Cardinal Bertone closed the Fatima apparitions,they did not tell the world that all the books on Vatican Council II, were written with a fake premise to produce a fake rupture with Tradition, which would contribute to the existing apostasy which Our Lady predicted at Fatima.<br />Their interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS was political and not honest.Their interpretation of the Third Secret could also be political and not honest.<br />CONTINUEDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-11769946877538575252021-09-06T01:04:22.088-07:002021-09-06T01:04:22.088-07:00
WHEN JESSICA GREGORI MET SISTER LUCIA AND TOLD PO...<br />WHEN JESSICA GREGORI MET SISTER LUCIA AND TOLD POPE JOHN PAUL II ABOUT THE THIRD SECRET OF FATIM THE WHOLE CHURCH WAS ALREADY IN APOSTAY INTERPRETING VATICAN COUNCIL II AND MAGISTERIAL DOCUMENTS WITH A FALSE PREMISE TO MAKE TRADITION OBSOLETE.<br /><br />When Jessica Gregori met Sr. Lucia and told Pope John Paul II about the Third Secret of Fatima the whole Church was already in apostasy interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise to make Tradition obsolete.<br />Archbishop Carlo Vigano has stated according to Life Site News (Sep 3, 2021) that Our Lady warned of a great apostasy in the Church.<br />Our Lady spoke to the Gregori family, after their statue of Mary had started to shed tears of blood on February 2, 1995. She made clear that this apparition is linked to her apparitions in Fatima. She stated: “My children, the darkness of Satan is now obscuring the whole world and it is also obscuring the Church of God. Prepare to live what I had revealed to my little daughters of Fatima”…<br />It is important to know that Jessica Gregori, the daughter of the family who witnessed these apparitions and supernatural events, was given by Our Lady the content of the third secret of Fatima and that this message was then passed on to Pope John Paul II at the time. She herself was able to meet, in 1996, with Sister Lucia of Fatima and to compare with her the messages they received concerning the third secret. They matched. 1<br />The original interview of Archbishop Vigano was with a Portugese publication and was translated into English for the magazine Vatican Insider.2<br /> Vigano refers often to Vatican Council II in the original interview and draws from a book by Father Flavio Ubodi,the vice-president of the diocesan commission which approved the apparitions at Civitavecchia, Italy, and so the miraculous statue was placed in a church for veneration. Ubodi has recently published a book, in Italian, called Civitavecchia- 25 years with Mary.<br /> But Vigano has not said that the apostasy is already there in the Church from the pope to the parish priest and that he is also part of the problem.<br />Peter Kwasniewski’s books and articles in general are written , for example, interpreting Vatican Council II and Magisterial documents deceptively with a false premise.In this way he does not have to affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).He is not ‘racist’ or ‘extremist’.So the Left allows him to speak at conferences and write his books with the error.<br />They are free to write and speak re-intepreting Vatican Council II with the fake premise.It means Kwasniewski and Vigano are rejecting the Athanasius Creed which says all need faith and baptism of salvation. Imaginary cases are politcally projected as exceptions to EENS and the Syllabus of Errors too.So these traditionalists are not really interested in proclaiming the truths of the Faith.<br />CONTINUED<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-3353424417120744832021-09-04T02:35:47.168-07:002021-09-04T02:35:47.168-07:00CONTINUED
This is official heresy. It is also of...CONTINUED<br /><br /><br />This is official heresy. It is also official schism with the past Magisterium.The false premise is used to create a new fake theology.This is unethical.The Ecclesia Dei communities are being coerced, to accept the New Theology and the fake interpretation of the Council, in exchange for canonical recognition and permission to offer the Latin Mass.<br />In Switzerland, Bishop Charles Morerod op would not allow the Society of St.Pius X to use the churches for Holy Mass in Latin.He said here was a doctrinal problem.He wanted the SSPX to interpret Vatican Council II schismatically with the irrational premise and accept the non traditional conclusion.He was supported by Pope Benedict.<br />The Ecclesia Dei communities must demand that Bishop Morerod interpret Vatican Council II with the rational premise, inference and traditional conclusion and that he reject his schismatic version of the Council.It is created with the New Theology.They should also demand that all Apostolic Visitors to their communties do the same.<br />Vatican Council II interpreted rationally or irrationally is now an issue in the Church and the National Catechectical Offices and the Bishops Conferences, have no right to interpret the Council irrationally, creating schism and heresy, and expect the Ecclesia Dei communities to follow them. -Lionel Andrades<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-29949302445859306232021-09-04T02:35:12.620-07:002021-09-04T02:35:12.620-07:00
THE POPE CANNOT INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II SCHI...<br />THE POPE CANNOT INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II SCHISMATICALLY AND EXPECT THE ECCLESIA DEI COMMUNTIES AND THE REST OF THE CHURCH TO DO THE SAME.THE POPE IS REJECTING THE RATIONAL INTERPRETATION OF THE COUNCIL. THE COUNCIL INTERPRETED RATIONALLY OR IRRATIONALLY IS NOW AN ISSUE IN THE CHURCH.WE NOW HAVE OFFICIAL HERESY. THERE IS OFFICIAL SCHISM WITH THE PAST MAGISTERIUM. COURTELAIN DID NOT MENTION THIS POINT.<br />There is only one rational interpretation of Vatican Council II.It’s with a rational premise.So there is no change in the teachings of the Catholic Church.The Ecclesia Dei communities meeting at Courtalain, France, August 31, 2021 had to confirm this.So when there is any reference to Vatican Council II it is understood that only the rational interpretation of the Council has to be chosen.If the pope does not affirm the traditional teachings of the Church, and chooses an irrational interpretion of the Council, with an irrational premise, he is in schism.Since the irrational premise has to create a rupture with de fide teachings ( Creeds and Catechisms).<br />If he interprets Vatican Council II schismatically with the false premise, he is in schism and his interpretation is not Magisterial and binding on all Catholics.The pope cannot interpret Vatican Council II schismatically and expect the Ecclesia Dei communities and the rest of the Novus Ordo Church to do the same.<br />Why should the Latin Mass Societies , Una Voce International and the Catholic Bishops Conference, who follow the pope, for example in Britain, interpret Vatican Council II irrationally, create a break with Tradition and consider this the norm ?<br />The Ecclesia Dei communities statement at Courtalain missed out on this point.The pope is in schism and he wants them to also accept schism by rejecting the rational interpretation of the Council.<br />Lay Catholics Roberto dei Mattei, Joseph Shaw, Peter Kwasniewski and John Henry Weston are ready to attend the Latin Mass and interpret Vatican Council II with the irrational premise, like Pope Francis, and so support a break with Tradition and also support manifest schism.This is approved by the Left.<br />Pope Francis is asking the Ecclesia Dei communities to accept Vatican Council II irrationally and schismatically, and they are going along with him.This was also the schismatic interpretation of Pope Benedict and they were content with it.<br />Before they have a meeting with Pope Francis and welcome apostolic visitors, these communities must clarify that they choose to interpret Vatican Council II non schismatically , with the rational premise, inference and non traditional conclusion.If they choose the irrational premise ( invisible people are visible in 2021) then the Council is a rupture with the Athanasius Creed ( all need Catholic faith for salvation).It contradicts the First Commandment( there is true worship in other religions with other gods).It changes the Nicene Creed ( I believe in one, holy, Catholic and apostolic Church in which membership is not always needed for salvation) and ( I beleive in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins and also three or more known baptisms( desire, blood, invincible ignorance etc), which exclude the baptism of water and so they are practical exceptions to EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).<br />CONTINUEDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-84610080559550719562021-09-03T01:11:26.323-07:002021-09-03T01:11:26.323-07:00
WHEN POPE BENEDICT REFUSED TO GIVE CANONICAL RECO...<br />WHEN POPE BENEDICT REFUSED TO GIVE CANONICAL RECOGNITION TO THE SSPX UNLES THEY ACCEPTED VATICAN COUNCIL SCHISMATICALLY WITH THE FALSE PREMISE, IT WAS COERCION.EVEN TODAY THE TWO POPES DO NOT WANT THE WHOLE CHURCH TO INTERPRET MAGISTERIAL DOCUMENTS NON-SCISMATICALLY WITH THE RATIONAL PREMISE.THEY WANT A HERMENEUTIC OF RUPTURE WITH THE PAST.<br />THEY WANT THE ECCLESIA DEI COMMUNITIES TO FOLLOW THE POPES SCHISMATIC INTERPRETATION OF THE COUNCIL FOR CANONICAL RECOGNITION AND PERMISSION TO OFFER THE LATIN MASS.<br /><br />If Pope Paul VI interpreted Vatican Council II with the rational premise there would be no liberalism.Ratzinger, Rahner,Cushing and Murray could do nothing.Now if Pope Francis interprets the Council with the rational premise the division, caused by liberalism, ends.It is the false premise which creates the liberal-conservative divide.Without the common fake premise there is no development of doctrine.Extra ecclesiam nulla salus today would be the same as the in the 16th century for Pope Francis, Pope Benedict and me.<br />With Summorum Pontificum, Pope Benedict hoped that the Society of St. Pius X would accept Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise and also the non traditional, liberal conclusion.<br />It did not work out.<br />He announced that the SSPX problem was a doctrinal issue. They had to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally, accept the non traditional conclusion and then they would not be in schism for rejecting Vatican Council II.<br />He did not tell them that he was in schism . Since there were two interpretations of the Council, one rational and the other irrational, if the SSPX would accept Vatican Council II with the rational premise there would be no break with the past Magisterium and Tradition.<br />If Pope Benedict does not confuse what is invisible as being physically visible in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, he would be Feeneyite on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.He would be ecclesiocentric. Then much of his writings in Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus , which are Christocentric only, would be non Magisterial.Since he used the false premise and so rejected the ecclesiocentric ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.There was a New Theology created with the fake premise.<br />When Pope Benedict refused to give canonical recognition to the SSPX , unless they accepted Vatican Council II with the false premise,it was coercion.Even today the two popes and the Left do not want the SSPX , and the whole Church, to interpret Vatican Council II with the rational premise.<br />They want the Ecclesia Dei communities to follow the popes’ schismatic interpretation of the Council for canonical recognition and permission to offer the Latin Mass. This is the familiar coercion. .-Lionel Andrades <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-78283394238908502972021-09-02T03:05:22.539-07:002021-09-02T03:05:22.539-07:00CONTINUED
With his liberalism,based upon the fals...CONTINUED<br /><br />With his liberalism,based upon the false premise, he is creating division in the Church.He is not allowing the Latin and Novus Ordo Mass to be offered by those who go back to Tradition while correctly putting aside the Council when it is interpreted schismatically a la papa.<br />The Ecclesia Dei communties which will meet Pope Francis this month must tell him that they affirm Vatican Council II interpreted non schismatically and they expect him also to interpret the Council with the rational premise, before he offers Holy Mass.<br />They need to tell Pope Franics to affirm the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics and political legislation,based upon the strict interpretation of EENS, supported by Vatican Council II( interpreted with the rational premise).<br />They must tell him to affirm an Ecumenism of Return to the Catholic Church, for Christian communities and churches, since Unitatis Redintigratio 3 does not contradict the traditional exclusivist ecclesiology and interpretation of EENS.<br />Tell the pope to affirm Traditional Mission like the Jesuits of the 16th century, since the baptism of desire (Lumen Gentium 14) and invincible ignorance (Ad Gentes 7) are not exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to St.Ignatius of Loyola, St.Robert Bellarmine and St. Francis Xavier.<br />Do not let him affirm Vatican Council II schismatically and expect you to do the same.The Council is no more an issue for the traditionalists.It is the liberals who may want to reject it.-Lionel Andrades<br />Lionel Andrades<br />Promoter of the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II.For him the Council is dogmatic and not only pastoral.<br />Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.<br />It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.<br />There can be two interpretations.<br />Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?<br />Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission )<br />E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-50246955703155321142021-09-02T03:04:41.777-07:002021-09-02T03:04:41.777-07:0002.09.2021
THE VATICAN PRESS OFFICE HAS NOT DENIED...02.09.2021<br />THE VATICAN PRESS OFFICE HAS NOT DENIED WHAT IS UNDENIABLE. POPE FRANCIS IS IN SCHISM AND HIS MASS IS NOT REGULAR SINCE HE USES A FALSE PREMISE TO INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II(LG 14) WHICH IS CONTRADICTED BY BISHOP ATHANASIUS SCHNEIDER.<br />The Vatican Press Office has not denied it. It is undeniable. Pope Francis is in schism and his Mass is not regular, since he uses a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II(LG 14 etc) which is contradicted by Bishop Athanasius Schneider in the recent interview with Dr. Taylor Marshall.With the false premise he changes the understanding of the Nicene and Apostles Creed and rejects the Athanasius Creed.His Profession of faith would be different from that of the popes over the centuries.Schism is a mortal sin.It is an impediment to offering Holy Mass.<br />The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Vatican Press Office agree with me. The pope does interpret Vatican Council II with a fake premise, fake inference and non traditional and schismatic conclusion.<br />The CDF also like the pope confuse LG 8,LG 14,LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, as being examples of salvation outside the Church.So they become exceptions for the Syllabus of Errors, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Athanasius Creed.We have a schismatic pope is the official line of the ecclesiastics.All the priests, and not only those of the SSPX and FSSP, have to follow him to be allowed to offer Holy Mass in the different rites.<br />When interviewed by TV 2000 and asked about the First Commandment, the pope could not say that there was true worship in only the Catholic Church.So for him there are other gods in other religions, through whom there is salvation.<br />We have a schismatic pope. It’s official and he refers to himself as the Magisterium.<br />At the Amazon Synod he interpreted Vatican Council II with a false premise.<br />At Abu Dhabi he interpreted Vatican Council II with a fake premise.<br />In Traditionis Custode and other encyclicals and apostolic letters, he interpreted Vatican Council II with a fake premise to create a fake rupture with the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church.<br />Without the fake premise there would be no New Theology.He would have to return to EENS of the Jesuits of the 16 century and would be accused by the Left, of being rigid, fundamentalist etc.<br />So our non rigid, non fundamentalist but schismatic pope offers Holy Mass in this ‘irregular condition’ and has prohibited the Latin Mass for priests/communities who do not schismatically interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial documents(Creeds,Catechisms etc).<br />CONTINUEDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-46186440883627412842021-09-02T03:03:55.880-07:002021-09-02T03:03:55.880-07:00CONTINUED
So the Four Marks of the Church( one, h...CONTINUED<br /><br />So the Four Marks of the Church( one, holy, Catholic and Apostolic) must include affirming all Church documents with the rational and not irrational premise.<br />In the Apostles Creed, we say "I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church".The Holy Spirit guides the Catholic Church even today, to say that outside the Catholic Church there is no known salvation.This would be interpreting the Apostles Creed with the rational premise.Otherwise the Creed would be saying outside the Church there is known salvation.<br />Vatican Council II is dogmatic and supports traditional EENS, with LG 8, LG 16 etc not being practical exceptions in the present times.<br />For Pope Paul VI, Vatican Council was pastoral and not dogmatic, since he used the false premise to create a break with the dogma EENS, the Syllabus of Errors etc.If he had interpreted the Council with a rational premise then the Council would also be dogmatic in 1965.It would make Fr. John Courtney Murray sj, Fr. Joseph Ratzinger, Fr. Yves Congar op and Fr. Karl Rahner sj unable to theologicallysupport their liberalism.There would not be a New Theology.<br />Since the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance are always hypothetical, theoretical and speculative only, they do not contradict the Church's traditional ecclesiocentrism. <br />These are the teachings of the Catholic Church which I affirm and the priests in the parish are unable to do the same.<br />St. Alphonsus Liguori, father of Catholic moral theology,says that if a priest is in public mortal sin, do not go up to receive the Eucharist. Since it would be a sin against faith and charity. He is on the way to Hell and you are telling him all is well. <br />The priest must end the scandal.(Teologia Moralis Bk.3, N.47)<br />In my parish, the priests have a problem with the Creeds, Catechisms and other Magisterial documents, just like Pope Francis.They are in public schism. So I do not go up to receive the Eucharist, at Holy Mass in Italian.<br />Pastorally, they allow this situation to continue. -Lionel Andrades<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-81983877554284586242021-09-02T03:03:09.268-07:002021-09-02T03:03:09.268-07:00CONTINUED
I affirm the first part of the Letter o...CONTINUED<br /><br />I affirm the first part of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which is not contradicted by the second half for me.Since the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance refer to hypothetical and theoretical cases only in 2021. They could not have been practical exceptions to Feenyite EENS in 1949. Pope Pius XII and the popes who followed made an objective mistake.The present popes continue with the mistake and expect all Catholics to follow them.So the interpretation of Vatican Council II by the College of Cardinals is also irrational and non Magisterial.<br />I affirm the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24 Q, 29 Q) on other religions.It is not contradicted by that same Catechism mentioning those who are saved in invincible ignorance. Similarly I affirm Ad Gentes 7 ( all need faith and baptism for salvation) which is not contradicted by Lumen Gentium 16 (invincible ignorance).LG 16 is always a hypothetical case.Only God can know if someone is saved in invincible ignorance.LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 are always hypothetical.So they do not contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church. <br />Similarly the Vatican Council II, Decree on Ecumenism, Unitatis Redintigratio 3, is always hypothetical.So does not contradict the past ecumenism of return or the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation.<br />Similarly I affirm the Athanasius Creed which says all need Catholic faith for salvation.I do not know of any practical exception in the present times.<br /><br />I affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and I accept hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance. I do not have to reject them.Since they can only be hypothetical, always.<br />I affirm the Catechism of the Catholic Church (846 Outside the Church No Savation) with Ad Gentes 7 saying all need faith and baptism. I do not know of any exception.There is no exception mentioned in the phrase , ' all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church'.The priority is membership in the Catholic Church, with 'faith and baptism' to avoid Hell ( for salvation).We do not separate Jesus from His Mystical Body the Catholic Church.The norm for salvation is faith and baptism.<br />Similarly I know that 'the Church knows of no means to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water'(CCC 1257) and that there are no practical exceptions.Theoretically 'God is not limited to the Sacraments', and practically all need the baptism of water and Catholic faith,always, to avoid Hell.There are no practical exceptions for the norm for salvation.<br />In the Nicene Creed, we say 'one baptism for the forgiveness of sins'. This refers to one baptism, the baptism of water, which is physically visible. I cannot administer the baptism of desire and it is not known to us human beings.So there is one baptism and not three or more known baptisms.There are no known baptisms which exclude the baptism of water.There is no literal baptism of desire, as says, Bishop Athanasius Schneider in the recent interview with Dr. Taylor Marshall.<br />CONTINUEDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-53489643599861018062021-09-02T03:02:31.745-07:002021-09-02T03:02:31.745-07:00The priests in my parish, like Pope Francis, are i...<br />The priests in my parish, like Pope Francis, are in schism with their irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II .They create a false rupture with Catholic Tradition ( Athanasius Creed, Syllabus of Errors etc)<br /> The priests in my parish, like Pope Francis, are in schism with their irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.They create a false rupture with Catholic Tradition ( Athanasius Creed, Syllabus of Errors etc).With the use of the false premise, the Joselitos Christo community priests, like the Franciscans of the Immaculate ( Fr. Rosario Sammarco f.i and seminarians), who were formerly here, are denying de fide teachings of the Church. <br />There is no denial from them.<br />I have written about this before. They agree with me.<br />For political reasons, like Pope Francis, they have to change the meaning of the First Commandment, project exceptions for the Great Commission and make the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus obsolete with the irrational interpretation of the baptism of desire etc.They have the Catechisms contradict each other.<br />Then in this parish, Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Rome, they do not have Catechesis or First Communion classes, based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.They could if they wanted to. Since Ad Gentes 7 says all need faith and baptism for salvation and there are no practical exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II. LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc can only be hypothetical.They are not objective cases in 2021.Invisible people cannot be exceptions for AG 7 or EENS.<br />Pope Francis and Pope Benedict promote the irrational and schismatic interpretation of Vatican Council II and other Church Documents.They are interpreted in a non Magisterial way with the fale premise.What is invisible is confused as being physically visible.<br />This is not binding on Catholics. <br />Since the popes would have to interpret the Council with the rational premise, create a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition and then be in harmony with the past Magisterium, for these Church documents to be Magisterial.<br />This is schism with the past Magisterium. Pope Francis would also be heretical for the Magisterium over the centuries.<br />The parish priests' interpretation of Vatican Council II, with the false premise,like that of Pope Francis, is not Magisterial.Since the Holy Spirit cannot make an objective mistake and promote a new teaching in the Church based upon an irrationality.<br />I AFFIRM CHURCH TEACHINGS <br />I affirm all the teachings of the Catholic Church but I only interpret Church documents with the rational premise. So there is no rupture with the past Magisterium and Catholic Tradition.<br />CONTINUED<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-91485598110806119052021-09-01T01:49:25.867-07:002021-09-01T01:49:25.867-07:00CONTINUED
Dr.Taylor Marshall could have asked, « ...CONTINUED<br /><br />Dr.Taylor Marshall could have asked, « Is Cardinal Marx in schism because of his irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II ? ».<br />The “Ecclesia Dei” communities meeting, with Pope Francis this month, as reported on the website of Taylor Marshall, would be of no value for the traditionalists.They need to discuss Vatican Council II, interpreted with the rational premise( invisible cases of LG 14 in 2021 are always invisible).More important, affirm it before the pope.<br />The FSSP (Fraternity of St Peter), ICKSP (Institute of Christ the King), and IBP (Institute of the Good Shepherd),interpretation of Vatican Council II is as schismatic as that of Pope Francis. They all use the false premise which Bishop Schneider avoided.<br />These communities need to tell Pope Francis to interpret the Council rationally,come back to the Church and take the Catholic Church back to Tradition at all rites and liturgies.<br />They should mention that the SSPX-Vatican talks during the pontificate of Pope Benedict,were a waste of time.Since both sides were interpreting the Council with LG 14 ( baptism of desire) referring to literal and objective cases.Fr.Jean Marie Gleize and Fr.Luiz Ladaria sj are still at it .. –Lionel Andrades<br /><br />Lionel Andrades<br />Promoter of the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II.For him the Council is dogmatic and not only pastoral.<br />Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.<br />It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.<br />There can be two interpretations.<br />Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?<br />Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission )<br />E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-28633988730949964962021-09-01T01:49:06.565-07:002021-09-01T01:49:06.565-07:00DR.TAYLOR MARSHALL DID NOT ASK BISHOP ATHANASIUS S...DR.TAYLOR MARSHALL DID NOT ASK BISHOP ATHANASIUS SCHNEIDER IF THE PRESENT TWO POPES ARE IN SCHISM. SINCE THE BISHOP SAID THAT THE BAPTIS OF DESIRE DOES NOT REFER TO LITERAL CASES IN THE PRESENT TIMES AND THE POPES SINCE PIUS XII DIFFERED.<br />Dr.Taylor Marshall did not ask Bishop Athanasius Schneider if the present two popes, are in schism.Since Bishop Schneider said that the baptism of desire does not refer to literal cases.The popes since Pius XII stated the opposite.The popes interpret LG 14( baptism of desire) as a rupture with the Creeds, Catechisms,extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and the Syllabus of Errors.If the popes interpreted Vatican Council II rationally then they would affirm these Magisterial documents and would not be in schism with the past Magisterium.<br />Pope Benedict in an interview with the daily Avvenire said that EENS today was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.There was ‘a development’ with Vatican Council II.He meant Vatican Council II with LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 being literal cases in 1965-2021.So EENS, the Syllabus of Errors and the Athanasius Creed were made obsolete.<br />But with LG 14 (baptism of desire) not being a literal case in 2021 for Schneider and Marshall, the game has changed. It is the popes are using the wrong interpretation of the Council.So they are choosing the hermeneutic of rupture with the past.<br />When in principle, hypothetical cases (LG 8,Lg 14,LG 16 ,UR 3 etc) are not literal and personally known non Catholics saved outside the Church in the present times,then the popes and the SSPX, can affirm Vatican Council II ( with the rational premise) and also Tradition ( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).They would not be in a rupture with the past Magisterium.They would be supporting Vatican Council II, Tradition and the past Magisterium.<br />Pope Francis is in schism since he rejects Vatican Council II interpreted rationally and rejects Tradition ( Catechism of Pope Pius X,24Q,27Q etc), with his irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.He produces the hermeneutic of rupture with the Early Christians, the early Catholics, the Fathers of the Church, the Medieval Fathers and the popes before Pius XII.<br />Now the entire College of Cardinals are in a factory-made, artificial schism with their irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II ( visible LG 14 cases).<br />The German Synodal Path is schismatic and the German cardinals and bishops have a rational and non schismatic alternative before them.<br />CONTINUEDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-66782615679431031782021-08-31T02:35:24.301-07:002021-08-31T02:35:24.301-07:00
POPE BENEDICT HAS ALWAYS SUPPORTED TEH GERMAN SYN...<br />POPE BENEDICT HAS ALWAYS SUPPORTED TEH GERMAN SYNOD WITH HIS IRRATIONAL INTERPRETATION OF VATICAN COUNCIL II.BISHOP ATHANASIUS SCHNEIDER AND DR. TAYLOR MARSHALL HAVE OVERTURNED THE INTERPRETATION.FOR THE GERMAN BISHOPS LUMEN GENTIUM 14 (BAPTISM OF DESIRE9 IS AN EXCEPTION TO TRADITIONAL EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS.FOR SCHNEIDER AND MARSHALL IT IS NOT.<br />All these years bishops supported the German pope’s political left interpretation of the Council.Now our pope emeritus can break away from his compatriot bishops.He has to issue a statement.He must announce that there are no literal cases in 2021 of non Catholics saved with the baptism of desire(LG 14).This is something obvious.It is a given.<br />Bishop Athanasius Schnedier has exposed Pope Benedict. For the pope, Jews do not need to convert into the Catholic Church as members for salvation.Since the exception (LG 14 etc) is the rule.<br />But we know that the norm for salvation is Ad Gentes 7( all need faith and baptism for salvation) and there really are no exceptions in LG 8, LG 14,LG 16,UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc, to AG 7 or the strict interpretation of EENS.Vatican Council II is dogmatic.It supports EENS. The Council is Feeneyite and not Cushingite.<br />Yet so many German and European authors have published books based upon Cardinal Ratzinger’s New Theology.There is a new liberal culture in the Church.Many of these books, including manuals of theology, are useless.Since they carry the Ratzinger virus.He has also influenced the Americans. So much of Scott Hahn’s writings are now straw.<br />Pope Benedict has been a modernist pope and has blocked traditional Catholic mission. »Why have mission, » he asked, « when Vatican Council II says there is salvation outside the Church ? ».Vatican Council II says this only with his false premise which creates the new theology.<br />He does not proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King in world politics ( Why ? LG 14 says for him, that outside the Church there is salvation).So now there are two interpretations of Vatican Council II. His and Schneiders.<br />He does not call for the non separation of Church and State(Why ? LG 16 is an exception to Feeneyite EENS).<br />He wrote the foreword for a book presented before the Italian leftist Senate.It supported the separation of Church and State.His priority was saving his life and the Vatican.<br />Pope Benedict must acknowledge his great contribution towards the German Synodal Path, also approved by Pope Francis.<br />The new moral theology with its permutations and possibilities is false.Cardinal Ratzinger let it pass at the universities.<br />Pope Benedict is the father of the Amoris Laetitia- moral theology.Who among us can judge general exceptions to the teaching on mortal sin, as the Catechism of the Catholic Church suggests, when interpreted irrationally ?.<br />He also approved seminarians being removed who did not accept Vatican Council II with the false premise.They instead affirmed EENS and got kicked out of the seminary( like me).We can see the results today in Germany and the rest of the world.<br />Pope Benedict must be asked to tell the German bishops that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with a rational premise and that he had made an objective mistake since 1965.<br />Also the SSPX in Germany must be allowed to interpret Vatican Council II with a rational premise and so affirm traditional ecclesiocentrism. His books on ecclesiology in Germany promote a false Profession of Faith, Oath Against Modernism and the Oath of Office of the Bishop.There are two interpretations now for the First Commandment, the Great Commission and Vatican Council II itself.Lionel Andrades<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-62462020303194988522021-08-30T02:06:44.343-07:002021-08-30T02:06:44.343-07:00DON PIETRO LEONE AND RORATE CAILI INTERPRET VATICA...DON PIETRO LEONE AND RORATE CAILI INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II LIKE FR. JOHN COURTNEY MURRAY SJ : LUMEN GENTIUM 14(BAPTISM OF DESIRE) IS AN EXCEPTION TO TRADITION FOR THEM.<br />'The Council and The Eclipse of God' by Don Pietro Leone - Part XIV: The Church and The State’ on the weblog Rorate Caeili seems like the last death knell for the Lefebvrist and liberal interpretation of Vatican Council II which Bishop Athanasius Schneider corrected in his latest interview by Dr.Taylor Marshall.<br />Don Pietro Leone writing from his ivory tower built some 50 years back has interpreted the Council with Lumen Gentium 14 ( baptism of desire) referring to physically visible examples of salvation outside the Church since 1965.Then with this false premise, he rejects the traditional ecumenism of return of the Syllabus of Errors(he cites UR 3 as an exception in a previous installment of this series). He rejects the teaching on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church according to the Athanasius Creed and the traditional ecclesiocentrism as Mass in Greek during the first four centuries.This is there in black and white in earlier blog posts on Rorate Caeili.<br />His non traditional interpretation of the Council,with the false premise(visible baptism of desire etc), like the popes from Paul VI, supports Fr.John Courtney Murray and Cardinal Richard Cushing in the separation of Church and State.<br />The liberals still ask, « Why should there be the non separation of Church and State and why should we proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King in all political legislation, when non Catholics can be saved outside the Church ? ».Don Pietro Leone would agree with their reasoning. He is saying the same thing.<br />Pope Benedict also asked the same question. In an interview with the Italian daily Avvenire he said that EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century. There was a development with Vatican Council II. He also questioned the need for Mission. Since Vatican Council II says ( according to Pope Benedict and Don Pietro Leone) that there is salvation outside the Church.<br />He means with visible cases of the baptism of desire, of course.This is the salvation outside the Church he has always been supporting.<br />Rorate says:<br />In Chapter 4, Don Pietro turns to consider the Council’s teaching on the Church and State. He explains how the Church has a duty not only to Her members, but also to the entire world. Her role in regard to the State is to guide Kings and governors to promote the best interests of their citizens, i.e. in the final analysis the attainment of eternal life in Heaven, such as has been the constant teaching of Holy Mother Church. (Lionel : This cannot be done when Don Leone, Rorate Caeili and Pope Benedict interpret Lumen Gentium 14 with a false premise unlike Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr. Taylor Marshall ). Readers will be amazed to learn that an entirely new political vision was to supplant this teaching, a vision which originates in Freemasonry and of which the most notable fruits are the Declarations of the French Revolution and the American Constitution, namely, the total separation of Church and State.(Lionel : It was made possible theologically with the error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston Cardinal Richard Cushing) The genius behind this devastating work of destruction was the American Jesuit, Father John Courtney Murray, who, unbelievably, was the author of all the speeches of the five bishops calling for these changes. F.R.<br /><br />Fr. Murray sj could do nothing if Pope Paul VI interpreted Vatican Council II with the rational premise. The Council would be traditional. So religious liberty, ecumenism and inter-religious dialogue would no longer be an issue.The Church would still proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King based upon the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.-Lionel Andrades<br />Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission )<br />E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-88433309152656220802021-08-25T02:56:35.419-07:002021-08-25T02:56:35.419-07:00CONTINUED
I write this not for the sake of critic...CONTINUED<br /><br />I write this not for the sake of criticism but so that they correct the error.<br />How can we have a pope who does not have the Catholic faith, who does not believe in the teachings of the Church ? The same could be asked of the cardinals and bishops. They want to interpret de fide teachings with a fake premise, change doctrine and do not deny it. Cardinal Burke, Cardinal Erdo and Cardinal Brandmuller are also in this category.<br />These cardinals were silent when Pope Francis was not Magisterial on Vatican Council II on the flight from Abu Dhabi.But conservative Catholics were quiet since they do not want to interpret the Council without the same false premise as the pope.<br />The Acies Ordinata and Coetus International also did not mention that at the Amazon Synod everyone was using a fake premise to interpret Vatican Council II and create a false rupture with Tradition<br />The SSPX too will not use the rational premise to interpret Vatican Council.In this way they avoid being Feeneyite on EENS.<br />Now in Traditionis Custode, Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with the same fake premise. In future he will do the same.<br />The issue is not the Latin Mass but Church doctrine-specifically the common false premise.Why must Catholics interpret Vatican Council II like the followers of Archbishop Lefebvre, Archbishop Thuc , Fr. Leonard Feeney and the liberal ecclesiastics ?<br />When Andrea Grillo a professor of Sacramental Theology and Philosophy of Religion at the Pontifical University St. Anselm in Rome, along with 180 signatories, wrote an open letter ( March 27, 2020) about a year before Traditionis Custode, critical of the Latin Mass, no one mentioned that they were interpreting Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus with the false premise.<br />There are no objective cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance in the present times confirmed Prof. Stefano Visintin osb, the former Italian Benedictine Vice Rector and Dean of Theology at St. Anselm University,Rome. For him, a physicist and theologian, there would be no objective exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II to EENS according to St. Benedict and the past Benedictines.<br />He has been banished from Rome.-Lionel AndradesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-88646349520088222192021-08-25T02:56:12.784-07:002021-08-25T02:56:12.784-07:00POPE FRANCIS INTERPRETS VATICAN COUNCIL II WITH A ...POPE FRANCIS INTERPRETS VATICAN COUNCIL II WITH A FALSE PREMISE AND THE TRADITIONALISTS CONSIDER IT MAGISTERIAL.<br />Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise and the traditionalists consider it Magisterial.A pope who interprets the Creeds and Catechisms with a false premise, even after being informed is automatically excommunicated.To follow him is to follow the Evil One.<br />How can Pope Francis be the pope when he interprets Vatican Council II and the Creeds and Catechisms with a fake premise to produce a false rupture with Catholic Tradition.<br />He is disqualified as pope until he corrects the error.<br />It would be the same for Pope Benedict.<br />Do we have a pope ? Yes and both are automatically excommunicated.They are a scandal.<br />Since they interpret the Council II with an irrationality to create a break with Tradition they don’t beleive in mortal sin.They don’t believe that they are in mortal sins of faith.<br />I interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise and so there is no rupture with extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), the Syllabus of Errors and the rest of Tradition.<br />I am a Catholic in harmony with Tradition. I am a Catholic in harmony with the past Magisterium and the Athanasius Creed.<br />I follow the Bible, Sacred Tradition and the past popes, irrespective of the objective error of the present popes which are political.<br />I am not a member of Una Voce International or the Latin Mass Societies, which also use the fake premise, like the popes and the Left, to change the interpretation of Magisterial documents.I am not a traditionalist like Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr.Taylor Marhall.Neither am I a progressivist like Cardinal Walter Kasper, Cardinal Cupich and Bishop Robert Barron who share the same fake premise as the conservatives, Michael Voris,Scott Hahn, Robert Fastiggi, Ralph Martin and the apologists at Catholic Answers and EWTN.How can the popes, cardinals and bishops who change the interpretation of the Nicene,Apostles and Athanasius Creed ,with the use of the false premise, be allowed to offer Holy Mass ?<br /><br />CONTINUEDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-243192260915276072021-08-25T02:54:51.260-07:002021-08-25T02:54:51.260-07:00August 25, 2021
Bishop Athanasius Schneider has sa...August 25, 2021<br />Bishop Athanasius Schneider has said that we do not know of any literal case of someone saved with the baptism of desire in the present times<br /><br /><br />Bishop Athanasius Schneider has said that we do not know of any literal case of someone saved with the baptism of desire in the present times. If someone was saved as such it would only be known to God.In an interview with Dr. Taylor Marshall he spoke about the need for evangelisation with a call for conversion.<br />He also indicated that Lumen Gentium 14(baptism of desire) did not refer to a literal case in the present times (2021).It is a hypothetical case.Though he did not mention LG 14.<br />For me Lumen Gentium 16 also is not a literal case in 2021.So LG 14, LG 16, LG 8 etc will not be practical exceptions to the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So Mission could not exclude any non Catholic. Protestants too.<br />Bishop Schneider's concept of Mission differs from the New Evangelisation of Pope Benedict and Pope Francis. Their New Theology is based upon Vatican Council II interpreted with a fake premise.Without known examples of salvation outside the Church there is no more the traditional exclusivism.So the New Evangelisation is Christocentric with no Ecclesiocentrism.It is Jesus without the necessity of being a member of the Catholic Church for salvation. Similarly the New Ecumenism and New Ecclesiology is based upon the interpretation of Vatican Council II(LG 14 etc) without the rational premise.They need the irrational premise to create all this new stuff. Bishop Schneider avoids this error in the interview with Taylor Marshall when he refers to the baptism of desire, as being invisible.-Lionel Andrades<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-68882812903788168462021-08-25T02:54:07.217-07:002021-08-25T02:54:07.217-07:00
WE ARE IN AN IMPORTANT TIME IN THE CHURCH. THERE ...<br />WE ARE IN AN IMPORTANT TIME IN THE CHURCH. THERE IS A BREAK THROUGH TOWARDS CATHOLIC TRADITION.SOMETHING NEW HAS BEEN DISCOVERED<br />We are in an important time in the Church.There is a breakthrough towards Catholic Tradition.This is not with standing what we see and hear all around us.Something new has been discovered.It is not really new. It was there before before all of us all the time but it was not noticed. It is the discovery of an unknown objective error.It is responsible for the liberalism in the Church. Now we can check that liberalism.It has has been attributed to Vatican Council II.But the specific cause was not known.<br />The new disovery is not a new theology or some new philosophy. It is simply discovering an empirical error being made by just about every one in the Catholic Church.It was a wrong way of physically looking at things and then creating a New Theology upon this practical error.<br />So now we simply do not look at things in the wrong way and we do not create the New Theology.And just this way of looking takes us back to the traditional Catholic Theology.Nothing is added.<br />We still have the same Vatican Council II before us. No changes are to be made.But we simply look at the Council differently.And theology changes. It goes back to the past times.The Middle Ages and the Church Fathers.<br />This is going to change newspaper headlines and reports on Vatican Council II.They may not like the Council any more.But there will be no choice. Since only one rational interpretation is possible. Only one. And now they are all using the irrational one.It is no more an option. Since now we know. The people know.<br />There is no more a break with Tradition in the name of Vatican Council II.This is irrespective if the Mass is in Latin or the vernacular.The whole Church theologically will have to go back to Tradition.<br />Pope Francis will no longer be able to use the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II and force it upon the Church. There now is an alternative.More people are getting to know about it.The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith does not have a monopoly on the interpretation.They have been choosing an irrational version of Vatican Council II for political reasons.The whole Church has been following them thinking this was Magisterial. But now we know that the irrational interpretation, which is a break with the past Magisterium cannot be the work of the Holy Spirit. It is human error.<br />After over 50 years we are on an even keel on Vatican Council II. It is no longer a problem. –Lionel Andrades<br />Lionel Andrades<br />We have a new interpretation of Vatican Council II.The Council is dogmatic and not only pastoral.There are two interpretations of Vatican Council II.One is rational and the other is irrational. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, with a false premise, cannot be Magisterial.<br />It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.There are two interpretations of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. One with the fake premise and the other without it.<br />Why should Catholics choose an irrational version ? It is also heretical, non traditional and schismatic.<br />There is a rational option which is traditional.There is no break with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church.<br />Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission )<br />E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-47420300165347354402021-08-23T03:52:42.274-07:002021-08-23T03:52:42.274-07:00QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT THE LIONEL ANDRADES IN...QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT THE LIONEL ANDRADES INTERPRETATION OF VATICAN COUNCIL II<br />1.What's so special about the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II ?<br />It does not use the common fake premise.It's a simple, rational and different way to read Vatican Council II.<br />2.What's so special about the Lionel Andrades interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)?<br />The same reason as above. It does not use the common false premise to interpret the baptism of desire(BOD),invincible ignorance(I.I) and the baptism of blood(BOB).So there are no practical exceptions for EENS.EENS is traditonal and BOD, BOB and I.I are interpreted rationally.It's not EENS or BOB,BOB and I.I. Since the latter are not exceptions for the former.<br />August 22, 2021<br />Domande e Risposte sul l'interpretazione di Lionel Andrades del Concilio Vaticano II / Questions et Responses sur l'interpretation de Lionel Andrades du Conseil du Vaticano II / Questions and Answers about the Lionel Andrades intepretation of Vatican Council II<br />DOMANDE E RISPOSTE SULL'INTERPRETAZIONE DI LIONEL ANDRADES DEL CONCILIO VATICANO II<br />1. Cosa c'è di così speciale nell'interpretazione di Lionel Andrades del Concilio Vaticano II?<br />Non usa la comune falsa premessa. E' un modo semplice, razionale e diverso di leggere il Concilio Vaticano II.<br />2. Cosa c'è di così speciale nell'interpretazione di Lionel Andrades di extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS)?<br />La stessa ragione. Non usa la falsa premessa comune per interpretare il battesimo del desiderio (BDD), l'ignoranza invincibile (I.I) e il battesimo di sangue (BDS). Quindi non ci sono eccezioni pratiche per EENS. EENS è tradizionale e BDD, BDS e I.I sono interpretati razionalmente. Non è EENS o BDS, BDS e I.I. Poiché questi ultimi non fanno eccezione per i primi.<br />QUESTIONS ET REPONSES SUR L'INTERPRETATION DE LIONEL ANDRADES DU CONSEIL DU VATICAN II<br />1.Qu'est-ce que l'interprétation Lionel Andrades du Concile Vatican II a de si spécial ?<br />Il n'utilise pas la fausse prémisse commune. C'est une façon simple, rationnelle et différente de lire le Concile Vatican II.<br />2.Qu'est-ce qu'il y a de si spécial dans l'interprétation de Lionel Andrades d'extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) ?<br />Le même que ci-dessus. Il n'utilise pas la fausse prémisse commune pour interpréter le baptême de désir (BDD), l'ignorance invincible (I.I) et le baptême de sang (BDS). Il n'y a donc pas d'exceptions pratiques pour EENS.<br />EENS est traditionnel et BDD, BDS et I.I sont interprétés rationnellement. Ce n'est pas EENS ou BOB, BOB et I.I. Puisque ces derniers ne sont pas des exceptions pour les premiers.-Lionel Andrades<br />http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/08/domande-e-risposte-sul-linterpretazione.html<br />Lionel Andrades<br />Promoter of the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II.For him the Council is dogmatic and not only pastoral.<br />Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.<br />It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.<br />There can be two interpretations.<br />Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?<br />Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission )<br />E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com<br /><br /><br /><br />AUGUST 4, 2021<br />Poland and Hungary need to adopt the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/08/poland-and-hungary-need-to-adopt-lionel.html<br /><br />______________________________________<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33769490.post-39843497484040757762021-08-21T03:50:13.776-07:002021-08-21T03:50:13.776-07:00AT THE PLACUIT DEO PRESS CONFERENCE(2018) CARDINAL...<br /><br />AT THE PLACUIT DEO PRESS CONFERENCE(2018) CARDINAL LADARIA WAS CRITICAL OF NEO GNOSTICISM AND PELAGIANISM HERESY.NOW WE KNOW THAT HE WAS REFERRING TO CATHOLIC ORTHODOXY. THOSE WHO AFFIRM CATHOLIC ORTHODOXY. THOSE WHO AFFIRM CATHOLIC ORTHODOXY WOULD BE GNOSTIC<br /><br />At the Placuit Deo press conference (2018) Cardinal Ladaria was critical of neo Gnosticism and Pelagianism heresy.Now we know that he was referring to Catholic orthodoxy.Those who affirm Catholic orthodoxy would be gnostic.It is similar to the political hate of the political Left.At the conference when he was asked to give specific examples of heresy in the present times, he would not do so.<br />So mortal sins of faith will officially be excommunicated by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF).It will be enforced as new Catholic doctrine.The CDF will work for Satan instead of God.<br />The Church has gone into reverse on faith and morals.<br />The CDF’s critical statement on homosexual unions, was orthodoxy,It could be gnosticism in future, after Cardinal Ladaria retires.<br /><br />In the 16th century gnosticism referred to heresy whch rejected Catholic orthodoxy. Now it is the opposite.<br />Since 1965 we have a political version of Vatican Council It' conclusion would be gnostic for the 16th century Magisterium and missionaries of that time.<br />In future when Vatican Council II is interpreted without the fake premise, inference and non traditional conclusion, it will support Tradition. With the rational premise it will not oppose Tradition like today. So then Vatican Council II will be considered heretical and gnostic.In future the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) could be labelled a gnostic organisation and legally not Catholic.They could be excommunicated.<br />Public signs of ‘the true Church’ will be prohibited.Bishop Robert Barron’s Word on Fire and the National Catholic Reporter, etc interpret Vatican Council II with a fake premise.They will be permitted.-Lionel Andrades<br />http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/08/alla-conferenza-stampa-di-placuit-deo.html<br />https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/248689/pope-francis-nostalgia-is-the-siren-song-of-religious-life<br />https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/08/pope-francis-wants-inculturation-with.html<br />FRANCIS COMPLAINS OF LITURGICAL ‘IDEOLOGY’<br />https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/francis-criticizes-liturgical-ideology<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com