Aside from the need to distinguish Vatican II and the liturgical reforms following (many of which do not reflect the council’s teachings), it is curious how Francis has removed Vatican II as an object of further study and inquiry.https://t.co/N0V4cwRYAv
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Tuesday, August 24, 2021
Another Exercise in Mental Gymnastics
by a Latin on Vatican II because of his commitments to Latin ecclesiology:
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WE ARE IN AN IMPORTANT TIME IN THE CHURCH. THERE IS A BREAK THROUGH TOWARDS CATHOLIC TRADITION.SOMETHING NEW HAS BEEN DISCOVERED
We are in an important time in the Church.There is a breakthrough towards Catholic Tradition.This is not with standing what we see and hear all around us.Something new has been discovered.It is not really new. It was there before before all of us all the time but it was not noticed. It is the discovery of an unknown objective error.It is responsible for the liberalism in the Church. Now we can check that liberalism.It has has been attributed to Vatican Council II.But the specific cause was not known.
The new disovery is not a new theology or some new philosophy. It is simply discovering an empirical error being made by just about every one in the Catholic Church.It was a wrong way of physically looking at things and then creating a New Theology upon this practical error.
So now we simply do not look at things in the wrong way and we do not create the New Theology.And just this way of looking takes us back to the traditional Catholic Theology.Nothing is added.
We still have the same Vatican Council II before us. No changes are to be made.But we simply look at the Council differently.And theology changes. It goes back to the past times.The Middle Ages and the Church Fathers.
This is going to change newspaper headlines and reports on Vatican Council II.They may not like the Council any more.But there will be no choice. Since only one rational interpretation is possible. Only one. And now they are all using the irrational one.It is no more an option. Since now we know. The people know.
There is no more a break with Tradition in the name of Vatican Council II.This is irrespective if the Mass is in Latin or the vernacular.The whole Church theologically will have to go back to Tradition.
Pope Francis will no longer be able to use the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II and force it upon the Church. There now is an alternative.More people are getting to know about it.The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith does not have a monopoly on the interpretation.They have been choosing an irrational version of Vatican Council II for political reasons.The whole Church has been following them thinking this was Magisterial. But now we know that the irrational interpretation, which is a break with the past Magisterium cannot be the work of the Holy Spirit. It is human error.
After over 50 years we are on an even keel on Vatican Council II. It is no longer a problem. –Lionel Andrades
Lionel Andrades
We have a new interpretation of Vatican Council II.The Council is dogmatic and not only pastoral.There are two interpretations of Vatican Council II.One is rational and the other is irrational. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, with a false premise, cannot be Magisterial.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.There are two interpretations of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. One with the fake premise and the other without it.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version ? It is also heretical, non traditional and schismatic.
There is a rational option which is traditional.There is no break with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church.
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August 25, 2021
Bishop Athanasius Schneider has said that we do not know of any literal case of someone saved with the baptism of desire in the present times
Bishop Athanasius Schneider has said that we do not know of any literal case of someone saved with the baptism of desire in the present times. If someone was saved as such it would only be known to God.In an interview with Dr. Taylor Marshall he spoke about the need for evangelisation with a call for conversion.
He also indicated that Lumen Gentium 14(baptism of desire) did not refer to a literal case in the present times (2021).It is a hypothetical case.Though he did not mention LG 14.
For me Lumen Gentium 16 also is not a literal case in 2021.So LG 14, LG 16, LG 8 etc will not be practical exceptions to the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So Mission could not exclude any non Catholic. Protestants too.
Bishop Schneider's concept of Mission differs from the New Evangelisation of Pope Benedict and Pope Francis. Their New Theology is based upon Vatican Council II interpreted with a fake premise.Without known examples of salvation outside the Church there is no more the traditional exclusivism.So the New Evangelisation is Christocentric with no Ecclesiocentrism.It is Jesus without the necessity of being a member of the Catholic Church for salvation. Similarly the New Ecumenism and New Ecclesiology is based upon the interpretation of Vatican Council II(LG 14 etc) without the rational premise.They need the irrational premise to create all this new stuff. Bishop Schneider avoids this error in the interview with Taylor Marshall when he refers to the baptism of desire, as being invisible.-Lionel Andrades
POPE FRANCIS INTERPRETS VATICAN COUNCIL II WITH A FALSE PREMISE AND THE TRADITIONALISTS CONSIDER IT MAGISTERIAL.
Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise and the traditionalists consider it Magisterial.A pope who interprets the Creeds and Catechisms with a false premise, even after being informed is automatically excommunicated.To follow him is to follow the Evil One.
How can Pope Francis be the pope when he interprets Vatican Council II and the Creeds and Catechisms with a fake premise to produce a false rupture with Catholic Tradition.
He is disqualified as pope until he corrects the error.
It would be the same for Pope Benedict.
Do we have a pope ? Yes and both are automatically excommunicated.They are a scandal.
Since they interpret the Council II with an irrationality to create a break with Tradition they don’t beleive in mortal sin.They don’t believe that they are in mortal sins of faith.
I interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise and so there is no rupture with extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), the Syllabus of Errors and the rest of Tradition.
I am a Catholic in harmony with Tradition. I am a Catholic in harmony with the past Magisterium and the Athanasius Creed.
I follow the Bible, Sacred Tradition and the past popes, irrespective of the objective error of the present popes which are political.
I am not a member of Una Voce International or the Latin Mass Societies, which also use the fake premise, like the popes and the Left, to change the interpretation of Magisterial documents.I am not a traditionalist like Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr.Taylor Marhall.Neither am I a progressivist like Cardinal Walter Kasper, Cardinal Cupich and Bishop Robert Barron who share the same fake premise as the conservatives, Michael Voris,Scott Hahn, Robert Fastiggi, Ralph Martin and the apologists at Catholic Answers and EWTN.How can the popes, cardinals and bishops who change the interpretation of the Nicene,Apostles and Athanasius Creed ,with the use of the false premise, be allowed to offer Holy Mass ?
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I write this not for the sake of criticism but so that they correct the error.
How can we have a pope who does not have the Catholic faith, who does not believe in the teachings of the Church ? The same could be asked of the cardinals and bishops. They want to interpret de fide teachings with a fake premise, change doctrine and do not deny it. Cardinal Burke, Cardinal Erdo and Cardinal Brandmuller are also in this category.
These cardinals were silent when Pope Francis was not Magisterial on Vatican Council II on the flight from Abu Dhabi.But conservative Catholics were quiet since they do not want to interpret the Council without the same false premise as the pope.
The Acies Ordinata and Coetus International also did not mention that at the Amazon Synod everyone was using a fake premise to interpret Vatican Council II and create a false rupture with Tradition
The SSPX too will not use the rational premise to interpret Vatican Council.In this way they avoid being Feeneyite on EENS.
Now in Traditionis Custode, Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with the same fake premise. In future he will do the same.
The issue is not the Latin Mass but Church doctrine-specifically the common false premise.Why must Catholics interpret Vatican Council II like the followers of Archbishop Lefebvre, Archbishop Thuc , Fr. Leonard Feeney and the liberal ecclesiastics ?
When Andrea Grillo a professor of Sacramental Theology and Philosophy of Religion at the Pontifical University St. Anselm in Rome, along with 180 signatories, wrote an open letter ( March 27, 2020) about a year before Traditionis Custode, critical of the Latin Mass, no one mentioned that they were interpreting Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus with the false premise.
There are no objective cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance in the present times confirmed Prof. Stefano Visintin osb, the former Italian Benedictine Vice Rector and Dean of Theology at St. Anselm University,Rome. For him, a physicist and theologian, there would be no objective exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II to EENS according to St. Benedict and the past Benedictines.
He has been banished from Rome.-Lionel Andrades
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