Showing posts with label Massimo Faggioli. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Massimo Faggioli. Show all posts

Tuesday, May 25, 2021

Latin Chauvinism




Tuesday, April 07, 2020

More Than Just a Conclusion from Premises

Even if Latin liturgical progressives understand correctly that the context of the Eucharist is the gathered assembly, the ekklesia, and that a privately-celebrated Mass is a less than ideal substitute for this, Massimo Faggioli went too far with his tweet, even if he did delete it. As a Latin, does he feel the need to make reparation for his comment? Or has he transcended the need for all that medieval Latin stuff?

The grave blasphemy of Beans. Wherein Fr. Z rants and makes a constructive suggestion.

I do admit that Latin liturgical progressives go beyond the modest claim that I wrote in the first sentence of the post, and some of their exaggerations in the rejection of private Masses are wrong-headed. They should be addressing the claims of those who defend private Masses as a good norm, and not creating strawmen. For example, the necessity of priests saying Mass everyday, even if it has to be in private, for the sake of bringing the benefits of Christ's Sacrifice to the world--how should they respond to that?

On the topic of the Eucharist as sacrifice, we also have this piece: Easter Without Mass? by Douglas Farrow, in which Farrow gives competing views about the necessity of the current quarantine/lockdown in many parts of the United States. Farrow writes in explaining one view: "The temporal goods of life and health, even public health, do not override the mandate of the Church to offer sacrifice and oblation in every place." I'm not going to address either of the two views and try to come to a conclusion which is correct here. Rather, I'm more interested in this "necessity of offering sacrifice and oblation" as it is instantiated in the Eucharist of Christ in the Church.

The foundational Latin understanding of sacrifice as it relates to Christ is what is of importance in this debate for both sides. If the progressives want to reject the traditional Latin view, then let them do so in an intelligent way.

We can recognize that the Christian faithful are being deprived of "spiritual nourishment" without accepting the progressive agenda of liturgical reform and praxis, just as we can avoid exaggerated Latin beliefs of the necessity of multiplying Masses, private or otherwise.

Saturday, November 02, 2019

And what does it mean for him?



A return to a first-millenium proclamation of the kerygma, something more patristic?

Friday, November 01, 2019

Fake Synodality

This is Faggioli pushing for fake synodality, that has no resemblance to what was or may have been practiced in the early Church.


Wednesday, October 30, 2019

A Different Take on Vatican 2

The Vitality of Vatican Council II
A presentation by Massimo Faggioli of the University of St. Thomas, followed by a conversation.

Tuesday, February 06, 2018

Echeverria on the Douthat-Faggioli Debate

CWR: Douthat-Faggioli debate highlights two key, contested issues of Francis’ pontificate by Eduardo Echeverria

Two major issues—the meaning and significance of Vatican II and the doctrinal implications of AL’s moral logic of pastoral reasoning—will continue to present the Church with challenges until such time as the Magisterium makes clear where the Church is headed.

Monday, July 25, 2016

Chiesa: Jesus Will Return From the East. But at the Vatican They Have Lost the Compass

The Holy See disowns Cardinal Sarah, who wants all the priests and faithful at Mass to be “facing the Lord.” But he is not giving up, and is relaunching the proposal. From Ratzinger to Bergoglio, the uncertain fate of the “reform of the reform”

Huge Gap Separates Pope Francis from Liturgical Traditionalists by Massimo Faggioli (Global Pulse Magazine)

Thursday, January 21, 2016

Chiesa: At the Vatican There Is a “Seismograph” That Is Setting Off Tremors by Sandro Magister

The latest incident is on how Francis interprets and implements Vatican Council II. The “school of Bologna” is chanting victory. But two letters from the pope say the opposite