Sacrifice and Substitution

Roberto Calasso’s Substitutionary Logic of Sacrifice
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— Church Life Journal (@ChurchLifeND) August 5, 2021

Does St. Anselm really hold to that sort of substitutionary theory of atonement? Or to an older Patristic one, in which Christ is the substitute for Adam after his failure?

What Sort of Interfaith Dialogue?

Sandro Magister: Why in Iraq the Pope Had To Keep Quiet About the Jews

Meanwhile, from Jerusalem, Israeli rabbi David Rosen, a leading figure in the dialogue with the Catholic Church, told “Asia News”:

“The visit by Pope Francis is linked to the Declaration on Human Fraternity signed in Abu Dhabi two years ago. I am happy about this gesture and I hope it will bear fruit. From my perspective, however, I also hope that this path will further expand, because at present, it is still an initiative only between Christians and Muslims. I am happy that it now involves the whole Islamic world. Still, it would also be important for the recognition of fraternity include an official Jewish representative. This is not only because of the deep bond that exists with Christianity, but also because of what it would mean for Islam. Until we don’t get one, a declaration on fraternity will lay open to the risk of being misinterpreted.”

How acceptable is this opinion?

Who Has Made Atonement?

I wish all our Jewish sisters and brothers a blessed Day of Atonement #YomKippur. We all pray for God to be gracious unto our world and for all human beings - whatever their beliefs – to forgive and make peace with one another.

— Elpidophoros (@Elpidophoros) September 27, 2020

"Abrahamic Religions"

An Orthodox traditionalist prooftexts from Scripture; but he isn't wrong, regardless of what his liberal correligionists and progressive Latins might think.

What did Christ say about the idea that Christians and others (such as Muslims and Jews) worship the same god?
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What did Christ say about the idea that Christians worship the same god as the religions (Jews, Muslims, etc.)?
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What did Christ say:

Do Christians worship the same god as Jews and Muslims?

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Douglas Farrow on Bishop Schneider's and Archbishop Viganò's Objections Regarding Vatican II

Dethroning Christ? The error at the root of the Viganò controversy (Part I)

Part 2

Farrow seems to admit this much:

Now, surely there is nothing wrong with a document promulgated in a political context being on its way to a political rather than an evangelical end, so long as that end is understood to be proximate rather than ultimate. There’s the rub, however. For the Abu Dhabi Declaration seems to be evangelically deficient in a way no political aim can justify. Its call to “come together in the vast space of spiritual, human and shared social values,” and to do so in such as way as to avoid “unproductive discussions,” might reasonably be taken to rule out the very thing Paul was doing on Mars Hill!

But Farrow cannot get beyond the parameters set by Latin ecclesiology, taken by Latins to be dogma:

When we keep this in mind, we can see more easily that to give the answer we ought to give, the answer we must give if we do not intend to be schismatic – the answer that Vatican II was indeed an authentic ecumenical council, engaged in the work of God and of the magisterium of the Church under God – is not to commit ourselves to the untenable notion that its fathers were uniformly faithful or that its documents, despite the flaws of their authors, were themselves essentially flawless.

As a Latin he must accept the claim by Rome that Vatican II is an ecumenical council. Because he must accept that, he must uphold the hermeneutic of continuity, much as Benedict XVI. Part 2 is better in so far as he responds to certain misconceptions (held by some Latin integralists and Latin traditionalists) regarding nature of the Kingship of Christ.

Maybe Not Everything Jacob Did Was Praiseworthy

Indeed, especially in his life before receiving the name of Israel, which was not given in exchange for him overcoming God, but as a gift?

And our Lord is confirming this?

There is something odd (almost, dare I say, ironic) about our Lord calling Nathanael "a true Israelite, without guile" (John 1:47), since of course the original Israel (Jacob), was a man of preeminent guile, who tricked his brother Esau and his father Isaac to get his blessing.

— Pater Edmund (@sancrucensis) August 24, 2020

Hans Boersma on Supersessionism

First Things

The Latin Traditionalists Are Picking Up On This

Sandro Magister: Everyone To the School of the Antichrist. But One Cardinal Rebels

Crux News: Pope to launch global educational pact next year by Inés San Martín

“...however noble such aims as ‘human fraternity’ and ‘world peace’ may be, they cannot be promoted at the cost of relativizing the truth of the uniqueness of Jesus Christ and His Church.” —Bishop Athanasius Schneider https://t.co/hDl7vUYANl

— Natalie Rosamund (@autumnspright) September 15, 2019

JUST IN from @HolySeePress : ‘The Higher Committee of Human Fraternity announced the inclusion of Rabbi M. Bruce Lustig, Senior Rabbi at Washington Hebrew Congregation’; Zenit’s @DeborahLubov & @RosaDieAlcolea spoke to Cardinal-elect Guixot, Vatican’s top interreligious official pic.twitter.com/gD7Tv9FpiP

— Zenit English (@zenitenglish) September 18, 2019

At the New York Public Library with prominent world interfaith leaders celebrating a historic new document on Human Fraternity & a bold new project linking a mosque, church & synagogue in Abu Dhabi to foster understanding, education, respect & peace. #humanfraternity #interfaith pic.twitter.com/6LSgKewN2s

— Eric Greenberg (@EricJGreenberg1) September 20, 2019

#WCC Programme Executive Rev. Douglas Leonard attended the New York event on the "Document on Human Fraternity for World Peace and Living together" signed by Pope Francis and the Grand Imam of Al Azhar, in Abu Dhabi. Here with Cardinal Miguel Angel Ayuso Guixot. #peace pic.twitter.com/Az8FHt7Rfh

— World Council of Churches (WCC) (@Oikoumene) September 21, 2019

The first public event hosted by the Higher Committee implementing the Document on #HumanFraternity takes place at the #NewYorkCity Public Library on Friday, bringing together hundreds of people from different religious and cultural backgrounds. https://t.co/oSwYSu6ogy

— Vatican News (@VaticanNews) September 21, 2019

Human Fraternity Meeting

The UAE Higher Committee of Human Fraternity has raised the number of members to 8, with the recent addition to the board of Rabbi M. Bruce Lustig. https://t.co/tQxxFisRRz

— Vatican News (@VaticanNews) September 18, 2019

The Higher Committee of Human Fraternity welcomes a Rabbi member https://t.co/VljidMbCrO pic.twitter.com/2UTesfJBIL

— The Leader Assumpta (@Assumptaleader) September 21, 2019

The first meeting of the Higher Committee of Human Fraternity was recently hosted by Pope Francis at the Vatican, the headquarters of the Roman Catholic Church https://t.co/w9aN2nn0WI pic.twitter.com/nGGUhOG8aG

— Arab News (@arabnews) September 16, 2019

INTERVIEW: Cardinal Guixot Discusses Fruits of Pope & Grand Imam’s Abu Dhabi Document on Human Fraternity

Reveals Project Being Launched in Abu Dhabi Soon to Be Presented in New York, While Speaking to ZENIT in #Madrid2019 @santegidionews #pazsinfronterashttps://t.co/XL2kEvPZP6

— Deborah Castellano Lubov (@DeborahLubov) September 19, 2019

H.E Obaid Salem Al Zaabi : "The document on #Human_Fraternity involves
Governments, UN institutions, Academic and Research Centers and Civil Society
Organizations with the aim to incorporate the values of tolerance and
coexistence in their policies, decisions, legislative texts" pic.twitter.com/7goZVnnCcH

— UAE MISSION GENEVA (@UAEMISSIONGENF) September 17, 2019

“Ramana Maharshi, one of greatest Indian saints in modern times, was asked: ‘How should we treat others?’ His reply: ‘THERE ARE NO OTHERS.’ This is the true definition of Human Fraternity.”

I spoke today at an inter-faith meet for world peace in #Madrid Spain.@santegidionews pic.twitter.com/dl8pCTpC92

— Sudheendra Kulkarni (@SudheenKulkarni) September 17, 2019

Committee implementing goals in Document on Human Fraternity meet for first time - Vatican News https://t.co/wYCPgUbgmG

— John M. Martinez, Ph.d. (@JohnMMartinezP1) September 12, 2019

Skorka says the Abu Dhabi doc on human fraternity co-signed by Francis and the Grand Imam of Egypt in Feb could do for Xn-Muslim relations what Nostra Aetate did for Xn-Jewish dialogue. https://t.co/TE5ydK4K5p

— Austen Ivereigh (@austeni) September 14, 2019

The Document on Human Fraternity, which I signed today in Abu Dhabi with my brother the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, invites all persons who have faith in God and faith in human fraternity to unite and work together. https://t.co/74Ig3XOPzw

— Pope Francis (@Pontifex) February 4, 2019

Kissing Holy Things

A Clarification?

But according to whom?

Sandro Magister: The Two Paschas of Jews and Christians. A Previously Unpublished Letter By the Pope Emeritus

An Important Israelite Benediction

Sacrifice?

OrthoChristian: JEWISH EVANGELISM: THE RELIGION OF ISRAEL AS PREPARATORY, NOT FINAL by Fr. Lawrence Farley

This difference is difficult to exaggerate. The religion described in the Hebrew Bible took it for granted that God’s presence, forgiveness, and blessing were accessed through the offering of sacrifice, at first on the altar which was part of the portable shrine carried by the Levites, and then at the immovable Temple built in Jerusalem.

CWR Dispatch: Edith Stein’s wisdom for a new century by William Doino, Jr.
A new anthology offers many insights into Stein’s thinking on faith and mysticism, Church-state controversies, the role of women, relations between the sexes, racism, suffering, and other topics.

Walk Through the Old Testament, Part 4

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Parts 1, 2 and 3

Supersessionism!

CWR: Divinely Planned Obsolescence by Thomas J. Nash

Why the Temple in Jerusalem will never be rebuilt and how the Sacrifice of the Mass is “the source and summit of evangelization”.

Old Testament Saints

Fr. Hunwicke

Fr. Peter Stravinskas on the Holy Maccabees

Fr. Hunwicke: Regnavit a ligno Deus

And what new things did he have to say about migration?

Roots of Christianity

Assuming that it did exist, what remains of the pre-Christian Jewish oral (or written) tradition(s) of interpretation and commentary on the Old Testament? Was there something more authoritative or separate from the Oral Torah? How much of the tradition of early Jewish exegesis has been preserved?

The Authority of Nostra Aetate

Fr. Hunwicke: Nostra aetate; its authority; Judaism; good news