Human Fraternity Not as Easy as It Sounds

Magister: Brothers All. But With the Muslims, for Francis, All Is More Complicated

What Sort of Interfaith Dialogue?

Sandro Magister: Why in Iraq the Pope Had To Keep Quiet About the Jews

Meanwhile, from Jerusalem, Israeli rabbi David Rosen, a leading figure in the dialogue with the Catholic Church, told “Asia News”:

“The visit by Pope Francis is linked to the Declaration on Human Fraternity signed in Abu Dhabi two years ago. I am happy about this gesture and I hope it will bear fruit. From my perspective, however, I also hope that this path will further expand, because at present, it is still an initiative only between Christians and Muslims. I am happy that it now involves the whole Islamic world. Still, it would also be important for the recognition of fraternity include an official Jewish representative. This is not only because of the deep bond that exists with Christianity, but also because of what it would mean for Islam. Until we don’t get one, a declaration on fraternity will lay open to the risk of being misinterpreted.”

How acceptable is this opinion?

Infection with Liberalism?

Or playing the liberal game in order to gain more freedom for their churches in Muslim-dominated countries?

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Who Has Made Atonement?

I wish all our Jewish sisters and brothers a blessed Day of Atonement #YomKippur. We all pray for God to be gracious unto our world and for all human beings - whatever their beliefs – to forgive and make peace with one another.

— Elpidophoros (@Elpidophoros) September 27, 2020

"Abrahamic Religions"

An Orthodox traditionalist prooftexts from Scripture; but he isn't wrong, regardless of what his liberal correligionists and progressive Latins might think.

What did Christ say about the idea that Christians and others (such as Muslims and Jews) worship the same god?
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What did Christ say about the idea that Christians worship the same god as the religions (Jews, Muslims, etc.)?
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What did Christ say:

Do Christians worship the same god as Jews and Muslims?

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Douglas Farrow on Bishop Schneider's and Archbishop Viganò's Objections Regarding Vatican II

Dethroning Christ? The error at the root of the Viganò controversy (Part I)

Part 2

Farrow seems to admit this much:

Now, surely there is nothing wrong with a document promulgated in a political context being on its way to a political rather than an evangelical end, so long as that end is understood to be proximate rather than ultimate. There’s the rub, however. For the Abu Dhabi Declaration seems to be evangelically deficient in a way no political aim can justify. Its call to “come together in the vast space of spiritual, human and shared social values,” and to do so in such as way as to avoid “unproductive discussions,” might reasonably be taken to rule out the very thing Paul was doing on Mars Hill!

But Farrow cannot get beyond the parameters set by Latin ecclesiology, taken by Latins to be dogma:

When we keep this in mind, we can see more easily that to give the answer we ought to give, the answer we must give if we do not intend to be schismatic – the answer that Vatican II was indeed an authentic ecumenical council, engaged in the work of God and of the magisterium of the Church under God – is not to commit ourselves to the untenable notion that its fathers were uniformly faithful or that its documents, despite the flaws of their authors, were themselves essentially flawless.

As a Latin he must accept the claim by Rome that Vatican II is an ecumenical council. Because he must accept that, he must uphold the hermeneutic of continuity, much as Benedict XVI. Part 2 is better in so far as he responds to certain misconceptions (held by some Latin integralists and Latin traditionalists) regarding nature of the Kingship of Christ.

The Third Encyclical

Pope Francis to Sign a New Encyclical on Human Fraternity on Oct. 3 https://t.co/7x28IkUyFW @cnalive

— Edward Pentin (@EdwardPentin) September 5, 2020

@Pontifex's new encyclical needs to heed Benedict XVI: "A brotherhood which embraces everyone in equal manner cannot expect to be taken seriously by anyone." My latest @Church_Militant story. @JZmirak @jihadwatchRS #humanfraternity #CatholicTwitter https://t.co/m8kBQMlPCE

— Dr Jules Gomes (@DrJulesGomes) September 5, 2020

The new encyclical to be released next month, on the universal human family, will invite comparison to the never-promulgated 1939 document Humani Generis Unitas. https://t.co/bOlFaGPft0

— Josh Hochschild (@JoshHochschild) September 5, 2020

John LaFarge, S.J. and The Unity of the Human Race

HAGIA SOPHIA: SOME PERSONAL REFLECTIONS by Phil Dorroll

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— Orthodoxy in Dialogue (@OrthoDialogue) July 6, 2020

Progressives within Greek Orthodoxy?

Bishop Schneider on Latin Interfaith Dialogue

Bishop Schneider: Catholics and Muslims share no common faith in God, no common adoration https://t.co/DanJv22DgY

— LifeSite Catholic (@LSNCatholic) June 20, 2020

Apparently you are unfamiliar with Muhammad's status in Islam as the "excellent example" (Qur'an 33:21) for human behavior in all ages. Unfortunately, hundreds of millions of Muslims are quite familiar with this. https://t.co/O2ap12eFOX

— Robert Spencer روبرت سبنسر रॉबर्ट स्पेंसर 🇺🇸 (@jihadwatchRS) June 21, 2020

The Fruits of... Vatican II? Assissi?

LSN: Abp Viganò decries Pope-approved plan to build ‘Abrahamic’ religious site with Muslims, Jews

"Abrahamic" Religions

New English Review: The Abrahamic Fallacy by Mark Durie

Bishop Schneider on World Over

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A Clarification?

But according to whom?

Sandro Magister: The Two Paschas of Jews and Christians. A Previously Unpublished Letter By the Pope Emeritus

Olivier-Thomas Venard // Qu'appelle-t-on prier ?

Edward Pentin Collects Some Responses

On the "It's not theology, it's diplomacy, or something" document. By what authority does the bishop of Rome have to make such a statement, with a representative of Islam?

Confusion in the patriarchate of Rome:

NCReg: Does the New Catholic-Muslim Declaration Deviate From Catholic Teaching? by Edward Pentin
The document’s statement that ‘diversity of religions’ is ‘willed by God’ has generated controversy.

Interview with Fr. Gabriel Bunge

OrthoChristian: DOES ORTHODOXY NEED MONASTIC ORDERS? by Schema-Archimandrite Gabriel Bunge, Vasily Tsuper
Schema-Archimandrite Gabriel (Bunge) speaks about Catholic reforms, Orthodox tradition and the most important objective of monasticism

Meanwhile...

CWR Dispatch: Edith Stein’s wisdom for a new century by William Doino, Jr.
A new anthology offers many insights into Stein’s thinking on faith and mysticism, Church-state controversies, the role of women, relations between the sexes, racism, suffering, and other topics.

What Manner of Interfaith Dialogue?

More of the Spirit of Assisi

And what new things did he have to say about migration?